POKER - What "IF" Big Daddy and Gene Gioia are right? Questions of ON-LINE poker SECURITY..

January 11, 2010 What "IF" Big Daddy and Gene Gioia are right? Questions of ON-LINE poker SECURITY..


Welcome to the poker forum of XFilespoker.com and goPApoker.com.. I'm Big Daddy! "The Voice of Pennsylvania Poker" & "The man @Xfilespoker on TWITTER that is blessed with a great crew of poker playing "ALIEN" special agents, known for quality poker play" - Big Daddy's FRIENDS.

While I punch the buttons on this site - I really offer it to ANY and ALL real lovers of the game of poker. Truth is.. The site is for ALL of US. ALL OVER THE UNIVERSE! No matter what race of alien you are - If you play poker - You are welcome here!

Please - Keep in mind, I'm just the Captain of this ONE ship - We have MANY captains in the armada...SEEMS MANY PLAYERS ARE UNHAPPY WITH ON-LINE POKER. (This was ALWAYS another goal of BIG DADDY'S in poker - To take "many different types of "INFO" poker sites" and bring them together, (Regular Joe everyday small ball POKER PLAYERS with the WSOP dream) My thoughts have always been.."Together we STAND Divided we fall.." Players can choose ANY side they want - but they can NOT shut down the on-line poker DEBATE.. Not on my watch.

Trust US - We have many joining up with the fight here. MORE AND MORE - Thanks to TWITTER! Many good poker players that think on-line poker - up till now... is somehow, a miss.. (Some XFP members have their "INFO" poker sites up now.. Some are just joining the XFP poker forum today with idea's.. Some are building sites as I type this & some will join the armada later on, as XFP grows) Oh... It's going to grow.. Bank on it!

All of us follow MOTHERSHIP! The man with the ULTIMATE ON-LINE poker player dream system. CLICK HERE - The man that will bring poker players a REAL GAME OF POKER "ON-LINE" for the FIRST TIME EVER - MARCH 2010 - and hopefully banish the RNG and other "leaks" for good...

REAL DEAL will also be cleaning up issues such as DATA MINING and ROBOTS, etc.. just to name a few.

Genes Gioia's GOAL and XFP's... - To bring POKER PLAERS the closest thing "TO A REAL GAME OF POKER" (Real LIFE like poker) to everyone's computer screen. "With a real deck of cards" and a CUT CARD to boot!!! - This and a whole lot more security for players.

Select AGENTS of the XFP/goPApoker.com forums are/have been TESTERS for the new REAL DEAL poker site (and ALL will tell you - It's a really cool set up! Even in beta testing.. it was awesome)

We - The XFP members could not be happier to be a part of this super special project. To be a "little part" of ON-LINE poker history.

Some of the XFP forum members (including myself) would, one day, LOVE to see - Gene Gioia inducted into the POKER PLAYERS HALL OF FAME.. (If even for... "just trying" to make on-line poker play better and safer for players) He and his TEAM have worked on this MACHINE for over 4 years now. (Way to stay focused people!) Big Daddy has been talking POKER and IDEA'S of a better on-line poker site for well over 2 years.. We think fate brought us together.

[i]To this day BIG DADDY does not know what "ANY" of these online gaming commissions really do to prove/assure current on-line poker sites are safe for poker players... (Anyone?) To XFP and BIG DADDY - it's going to take more than just a BADGE or BANNER on a poker site... We want DAY in and DAY out security measures we can see... MAJOR PROOF! PERIOD. And maybe a 100/1 BET/PAYOFF if we as poker players prove otherwise. [/i]

A lot to take in right? Cmon.. people Turn off ONE of those turbos and THINK! Soak it all in... You have to at least want to assure SECURITY.. No?
We hope you will join us! XFP is here for YOU! THE POKER PLAYER. THE GRINDER. We hope you will ask your friends to join the XFP forum and gopapoker site as well.
*REAL DEAL & XFP/goPApoker was made by poker players (Big Daddy and Gene Gioia) NOT COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS.. POKER PLAYERS that truly LOVES/LOVED the game of poker for almost 80 years combined play... (We love poker a little more than the average bears)

*We are players who RESPECT good play and players who study the game.

*We are players that DEMAND oversight and want a fair shake while playing poker online. Gene Gioia and Big Daddy want to play in games & on sites with integrity.
Wouldn't you as a poker player want all this too?
Of course! (Join the forum - Choose ur side of the debate) Give it a TRY.

This journey is just beginning - and it starts with this first step - JOINING and BECOMING active MEMBERS on the XFP/goPApoker.com forum boards...

If Gene Gioia and I are right (Tom Dwyer/Big Daddy) - Players will see in the first week or two that THINGS are not as it seems with on-line poker in it's current forum.. HELL.. I seen a difference in FLOPS in the first few hands.. and that's the truth. (Big Daddy expects all BIG, well known poker sites will be changing systems very soon - SIMPLY put - THEY WILL HAVE TOOOOO! ;)

MY GOAL w/XFP (Hosted by goPApoker.com) - TO SHOW THAT "OZ" - (THE GREAT ON-LINE POKER WIZARDS / "TODAYS "on-line" POKER sites... are riddled with ROBOTS, scams and scammers) & Just like the bum that "toto" the dog found behind the curtain.. in the movie - "The Wizard of Oz" ALL IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS! (Let's expand on the 60 minutes news REPORT on Ultimate bet. Joe Sebok is welcome to chime in...) - I speak for MY POKER ACCOUNT here.. "It's nothing more than FANTASY.. NOT EVEN CLOSE to a REAL POKER GAME." (I know I'm not alone based on all the twitter and e-mails I receive from hundreds of poker players everywhere)


THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE! XFP! - Is going to FIND IT!

We aim to change all that in 2010! (& You need be a part of it! GET PUMPED! Big Daddy is!) -Poker players should see the difference DAY ONE by the flops, turns, etc that u see hitting the felt.. and by the amount of times ur cashing out (putting money in your bank account) w/ REAL DEAL POKER vs. ANY CURRENT ON-LINE poker site out there today. (*With QUALITY poker of course...)

Yes sir.. POKER on-line, TILL REAL DEAL starts dealing.. is.. just like the Wizard of OZ... A fraud...

What what ROAD you choose to follow.. (XFP suggests poker players choose wisely)

An on-line poker site with integrity is coming! A poker site "A Cut above the Rest" - It's called REAL DEAL POKER! TELL EVERYONE!

Thank you for visiting our forum - We hope you sign-up today and become active in the debate (On-line poker)


Tom Dwyer - "Big Daddy"
@xFilespoker on twitter
The VOICE of PENNSYLVANIA POKER

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I'm not buying any of this ONLINE POKER "RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR BS.." & BUCK ROGERS "Quantum Photon Shufflers"

Today's poker topic kiddies is.. The dreaded "RNG" & a little thing called a  "Quantum Photon Shuffler"  This Sunday morning..  I was reading my ALL IN poker mag with the sun shining in the window.. doing not much really,  scanning my face-book, twitter (Xfilespoker) while doing my normal sunday thing.. slamming down my 2nd big gulp coffee. Then I got this message on FACE-BOOK - (My face-book gets the most action l8tly for some reason...) So anyways the message was from an old friend on mine - Poker instructor "AL Spath"  It was a link to a site called Virtue-poker - and since I respect Al - I had to go and take a look.  For some reason.. my gut tells me something seems way off here (Online poker today) - and hm mm how can I say this.. hm mmmmm..over SOLD maybe?.. I guess?  No dis-respect towards Al Spath.. (I suggest you learn poker from this man) He only suggested the link. First off.. Let's break it all down and take a look the name of this site.. "Virtuepoker" - The name itself says - SAFE. BUILT by PEOPLE WHO CARE.  (Why the need to pump safety & Integrity with an on-line poker site?)  Are poker players unhappy with the OLDER sites?  I notice.. when I open the Virtuepoker's site that it is a set-up of buttons (links and names of links) that I've seen recently on another new poker site by a different name.. It's very close if not an exact match..  (Forgive me for not knowing the name) but it WAS the same setup....  OK, no biggie.. - This is what we call a "NETWORK of computer poker sites" in the on-line poker world.  Virtuepoker is a SKIN site - I got no problem with that..  But still, something is just not right? Why is there a need for a lot of the newer names of poker sites to be bundled up and wrapped around  a stamp of being SOLID.. SAFE.. Using words like INTEGRITY & VIRTUE? How many players did online poker rake over the coals the last 10 years?  (I see a shift in marketing)    Should we expect the book to give us what the cover is selling???... Should we BELIEVE these pitches because of what we read on a few of the poker sites links or in a poker magazine?  Why do these new sites have to OVER SELL these pitches all of a sudden?  Was RNG'S an issue?   (I sure do think so.. and so do many of my pals playing on-line.. There are quite a few that left on-line all together.. In a nut shell... I know with all my heart I'm not alone here) I've been in sales many years - and I can tell you - there are many times when a salesman can OVERSELL-PUSH and lose customers that they ALREADY HAD in the bag.  It's never a good thing to PUSH too hard.  Better to just show the buffet and let the customer choose what they like.  Quality sure does help as well..  DO WE REALLY HAVE THE BEST and SAFEST POKER WHEN WE PLAY ONLINE? The big questions I'll ask you to answer today is.. DO WE (Should we) BELIEVE WHAT WE READ ABOUT A POKER WEB SITES SECURITY and RNG to be 100% true?  If the site SAYS they have "INTEGRITY" - Should we just believe this as FACT?  (I'd like to see time and time again what a poker site is doing to give me a fair shot at winning.. To date - I don't think any these sites prove to us that we are getting a REAL RANDOM SET OF CARDS.. I'm not sure from talking to some computer nuts that TRUE RANDOM by a computer can ever be had...  I've seen too many KEY hand situations where LONG SHOTS.. crush quality cards and even more.. QUALITY PLAY.. I've seen this with various accounts. Mine, friends.. People I've railed/teach etc.. etc..) Enough of my babble.. Let's look into the Virtue poker sites "INTEGRITY" link - the pop down menu gives you an option to see what their RNG is all about .. (It's the best!)  Is it?  I dunno.. Maybe.. It would be fantastic to KNOW that we as players are getting TRUE RANDOM.  WHY the really fancy word OVER SELL??.. If ever I've seen an oversell like the 20 year old salesman at the car lot.. This is it!  OK - enough of my thoughts..  YOU MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND... This is how the powers that be explain their RNG. Virtuepoker's Real Random Card Shuffler   We're convinced that our card shuffling system is the best one out there. In fact, we're so convinced that we built an on-line poker room around it. Our "Quantum Photon Shuffler" is essentially an unpredictable, scientifically- proven quantum-mechanical process inside a special, impregnable, 'hack-proof' "black box". All on-line casinos use an RNG, but not all RNG'S are the same. Of course, for security reasons, we can't tell you exactly how ours works; but we can give you an idea:  At the start of every game, the table asks for a freshly shuffled deck. The Shuffler requests a clean set of random data from the RNG. The RNG generates purely random data using the simple yet highly reliable and secure mathematical representation of the statistically random behavior of photons (particles of light) when fired through a half-mirror - or a mirror which allows only 50% of all light to be reflected while the other 50% passes through. As it is impossible to tell whether a photon will pass through or be reflected, the resulting data is a totally random string of ones and zeros, or binary code. Just to be sure, the Shuffler monitors the output of the RNG for randomness. If the data is clean, the string of code is translated into a freshly shuffled deck. This process is repeated again on the shuffled deck - i.e. a double shuffle. The cards are then sent along a secure, encrypted line to the table - a freshly double-shuffled deck. Before each card is dealt out, a re-shuffle of the remaining cards takes place. This means that each dealt card has been randomly drawn from a freshly reshuffled deck, each and every time. And so on, until the game is over and the next one begins. This process of continuous shuffling is a measure of added protection to ensure the highest level of randomness and security that can be obtained. A unique system: It is impossible for player actions to influence the cards. It is impossible to predict future cards. As all the shuffled data is sent along a secure, encrypted line, it is impossible to intercept card data Hole cards are only visible to the players that hold them. Even our floor manager cannot see what you are holding until the game is finished. The design is simple and therefore fail-safe. The "black box" shuffler is itself set within a totally secure system. The only thing which can enter our shuffler is a secure, coded request for a freshly shuffled deck of cards. The only thing which can come out of our shuffler is a shuffled deck of cards. Virtuepoker works hard to give you the peace of mind you deserve - so you can concentrate on your game. " OK.. back to my thoughts.. (This next line I think isssss a MAJOR over sell) "Quantum Photon Shuffler" is essentially an unpredictable, scientifically- proven quantum-mechanical process inside a special, impregnable, 'hack-proof' "black box". All on-line casinos use an RNG, but not all RNG'S are the same. Of course, for security reasons, we can't tell you exactly how ours works; but we can give you an idea: " Remember the WIZARD OF OZ?  Something tells me there is a man behind the big emerald crystal wall... Pushing our buttons with BULL SHIT.  a "Quantum Photon Shuffler"  - BEEAAAMMMM ME UP SCOTTY!  Somebody Quick.. get me a real deck of cards.  Pennsylvania!  Please RUSH and bring me LIVE casino poker.. "Quantum Photon Shuffler" - Like they say on Saturday night live.. REALLLLLlllllllyyyy?  LOL!!! "The "black box" shuffler is itself set within a totally secure system."  Yeah... there is a system in place alright.. and my gut tells me it's a very complex system of BALONEY.  It's a good thing for us rounders however that these virtuous people have our backs.. so when our stack of CHIPS.. (REAL CASH) crashes and burns.. at least they have a "BLACK BOX" - We have a NEW system to blame.. GOD DARN "Quantum Photon Shuffler"  I'm not a fan of current RNG's or these NEW "Quantum Photon Shufflers"  I'm told by many that the cards we all receive on-line are really random..  I'm simply NOT BUYING IT.  If this is so... Why the OVER SELL? ("Quantum Photon Shuffler" - PPAAA LLLLLEEEAAASSS EEEEEE!) Why a need to sell like this at all??? Would not a product like a REAL DEAL POKER system from a "real deck of cards".. sell itself?  I think if anyone ever comes up with a REAL DEAL POKER system - Ads won't even be needed - The news of a real deck of cards will spread like the H1N1 virus..  Killing all these older systems or at least - making them change the current SYSTEMS. While I'm on a steam roller - I'll add.. It might be possible that some players are playing on ONE legit system while another is playing a not so legit/fair system.  (we have to at least ask these questions)  Don't be mindless on-line poker zombies. Integrity - That's a major word.  We would expect quality cards to hold up and win even after the turn and river card.  At least the majority of the time..  Hell - The RNG pitch is so good at Virtuepoker that even I might have to try this (new) site..  WAITE..  HOLD ON... EXCEPT ONE THING (I have this feeling I'm being oversold and possibly even ripped off by yet another used car lot salesman)  I'd like to know WHY a site like this felt the need to BUILD a new site around this new magic black box?  What was wrong with the RNG's that have been out there all these years?  Huh?  ANYBODY? You can disagree with me.. but at least THINK ABOUT ALL THIS.. Of course poker players - I could be wrong... but I really doubt it. The VOICE of PENNSYLVANIA POKER MrXfilespoker Xfilespoker Poker Forum WHERE I PLAY - Full Tilt Poker Homepage

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THE FOLLOWING is just the MOTHER SHIP (me)... THINKING out loud... Please - Add anything I'm missing.. OR your opposite thoughts on these and other matters..

Are players posting on sites like these just poor players.. or is there more to it than that? Why are there so many web sites like these?

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[i]I've never wanted or have been motivated to make a site BASED on my "20" years of LIVE poker play.... I never needed to.. For about 16+ years I was a winning LIVE poker player.. Quality cards and plays semed to PAY off.. Huh? How about that??[/i]


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THE BIG PROBLEM with a debate like this... (debating POKER)

Seems POKER is a hard NUT to crack, to disect... - So many variables...

Is the player that bad? Is the player THAT unlucky? Is the player FOOLING his/herself? Does a winning LIVE poker player mean little - when he/she jumps to ONLINE? Is the player drinking or playing tired?

I actually FIND myself PLAYING bad on these sites - to SEE outcomes.. (I have to DIG around) I have to "SEE"...

I pay attention to EVERYTHING.. WHAT I do see online (watching others action) appears to me - to be - like many say - CONTROLLED ACTION! (Boards with no gaps! Flush and st draws...ALWAYS!) Just CRAZY poker - EVERY HAND! (Is this REAL????)

I say this is NOTHING close to REAL POKER.

Poker is filled with all styles of players.. Timid - cocky -
low key - and high key... Crazy Loose and ROck TIGHT!...

This makes it a harder case to PROVE.. (But we always have our guts too)

FORUMS TOO! ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE! (some want to get into a major debate - Some are not into getting into it.. many others - just don't care... WORSE yet.. (OMG!) They think POKER is just a game... (A slot machine!) ***SOME are JUST LURKING!!!!**** (Get into the game of life LURKERS!) POST TODAY!

Is online poker a SLOT MACHINE? Is it just as simple as - IF YOU CATCH THE RIGHT SEAT - YOU'RE a WINNER???

Is ONLINE POKER run FAIR and SQUARE? (I will never stop asking this QUESTION! You can't make me!)

Can a player just BELIEVE - based on what online poker sites are telling us - giving us? (which is not much if you ask me) Givin this.. Can we really believe ONLINE IS SAFE and A TRUE RANDOM GAME?

What the hell does RANDOM (rng) even mean when talking ONLINE POKER..

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I went out with friends last night (01-02-09) - to the SLOTS at our local casino.. Was it random? I can tell you this.. It is RARE that we win when we play slots.. Combined! We lost - oh! 3,000.00 between "6" of us last night.. (and... grrrr I had to pay for my tequilla! and Miller light.) Not ONE of us ended up leaving a winner.. (is THIS FAIR??? Better YET?? IS THIS "FUN"?) NOT FOR ME SISTER!!

We WON for 15 min.. then TANKED! A few of us even hit 2nd HIGH jackpots.. WE STILL got crushed.. IS THIS REALLY RANDOM?? Or some sort of controlled RNG.. To keep the BILLS paid to all the TOP ENRON type leaders.. (DO they have to TAKE IT ALL.. EVERY TRIP) It seems controlled way more than the machines I remember playing 15 years ago.. Years ago.. I won 2/3 visits - and get this .. LEFT with MONEY! Not anymore..

Do these casinos build these HUGE fancy places ON winners? Of course not!

I bring up SLOTS - Only to make this statement.. Online poker to me... seems the same thing! I watch other players.. POOR PLAYERS.. that seem to have PICKED the right seat.. (they can't lose) I myself - notice the same thing.. (but I don't feel I'm playing better.. I play the same) I also notice PATTERNS of COLD CARDS in tourneys and SITUATIONS AT KEY - levels (blinds) where my Pocket pairs run into what seems to me -- you guessed it! CONTROLLED action.. Then the POOR "call" against my Higher hand.. Spikes the MONSTER or "4" high FLUSH..

In a nut shell.. (for me) I see it way too much. To the degree it's actually INSULTING.

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Is ONLINE POKER the SAME for ALL players? (Does depositing MORE hard earned cash or widthdrawing more when we win - mean anything??? MANY PLAYERS SAY IT DOES... ) Why?

MAYBE THEY JUST HAVE OUR ACCOUNTS switched to "CRUSH HIM" - "NEVER LET HIM/HER WIN".. Lol.

With all the exposed SCAMS in poker - Shouldn't we at least bring the DEBATE to the FRONT JETS? Bring it all out in the open..


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I'm in private talks with people/players over SKYPE and YAHOO.. (Why they won't POST it all here.. I'll never know) SOme of these players are members here (I guess just to be nice), some are not members .. (some do not even know how to work e-mails)-

These are Players that think ONLINE is fair.. and THEY win.. They think THIS SITE is for the BIRDS...

But HOW MUCH DO they win? HOW OFTEN? ARE THEY TELLIN THE TRUTH??? (Who knows) Can I see some proof??


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I really Don't know.. (I need to KEEP searching for the answers)

Is it possible MOST players put "ACTION" over caring for a LEGIT GAME?

Is it possible too many players - CAN'T turn the game off.. and are affraid Sites like these WILL TAKE AWAY THEIR COCAINE FIX?

I never PLAY becasue I can't NOT be in a game.. I play poker to WIN money - To crush POOR players.. To buy nice vacations.. PERIOD. I leave a WINNER and I LEAVE early when it's NOT going well...

How about you???

THESE ARE THE TYPE OF POSTS I'M LOOKING FOR HERE!


Answer questions like the ones above!! And teach PLAYERS too! Let's teach them the PROPER bets/calls/folds to be making in NL games.. and to play POSITION.. etc.. (You get my drift right?)

Is it possible - Some players do not see the FOREST from the TREES??? Is it possible THEY just can't see they are being SCAMMED! (even the WINNERS!) Is it possible the WINNERS should be winning MORE??

I can go on and on..

Will xfilespoker be here in a YEAR?

It's UP to the answers to the questions above - and the quality of the debaters on these boards..

If you ask me... I say something is NOT right...

I'll be happy to have anyone RAIL me or to have me RAIL them (via skype etc..) to PROVE me wrong.

I'd LOVE to be wrong.

You will either believe I have thousands of hours of WINNING LIVE or you don't ... You will either agree or disagree with the RANTS above..

BUT - PLEASE!!!!

DEBATE IT!!!

Get others in here too!!!

Please - with SUGAR!JOIN THE FORUM HERE

Xfilespoker.com "BULL SHIT HAND OF THE DAY" goes to...

NOW - I DON'T CURSE MUCH and I NEVER DO IT HERE ON MY BLOG.. (But NOT TODAY!)


"BULL SHIT HAND OF THE DAY"

goes to ****SPADE CLUB******* And it's just regular business for online poker. LET ALL THE DOG HANDS win it all! RNG's MY ASS!

Pocket 55's her makes the raise in what I see as just another SET UP HAND (nothing random about it)

I re-raise ALL IN with my 99

STUPID BASTARD in late position and AN ITCH for action... of course MUST CALL with 2/3 diamonds - Seems he has to take a shit or something - I'd have to figure... He says says screw it! I CALL! (I know I'm a dog - and DOG hands WIN more than quality cards online)

Guess who takes it!

The FUCKING DOG!

The dip shit poker player that I will CRUSH live if I ever see him!

EVERY OTHER HAND GOES DOWN JUST LIKE THIS FOR ME ONLINE?

I am not TILT! I'm fustrated and sick and tired of this sorta thing happening to me and all my friends MORE TIMES THAN NOT! His correct move here is easy! FOLD!

We need change and WE need it YESTERDAY! Online poker is the BIG FIX!

Please visit CLICK HERE xfilespoker.com if you too think that online poker is complete BULL SHIT.

IS THERE ANY SITE OUT THERE THAT IS NOT A COMPLETE SHAM LIKE ALL THESE? SET UP ACTION - ACTION BOARDS - NON RANDOM HANDS..

IF YOU SEE ONE - PLEASE - LET ME KNOW YESTERDAY.